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    How Long Do We Have???

    HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?

    This
    is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.

    I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve
    it.


    How Long Do We Have?
    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years
    earlier:


    'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as permanent form of government.'

    'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the
    public treasury.'

    '>From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'




    'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
    beginning of history, has been about 200
    years'

    'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following
    sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. from courage to liberty;
    4. from liberty to abundance;
    5.from abundance to complacency;
    6.from complacency to apathy;
    7. from apathy to dependence;
    8. from dependence back into bondage'

    Professor
    Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:



    Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29


    Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans:
    2,427,000


    Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143million


    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans:2.1

    Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...' Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between
    the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency'
    phase.
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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    Anyone who's ever worked with statistics will tell you two things that are universal truths about statisticians & statistics:

    1) You can make the numbers say whatever you want them to say.

    2) There are liars, damn liars, and then there are statisticians.

    Not saying I don't agree w/parts of what you posted, but numbers can be played with to paint a picture however you want it.
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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    I see what you are trying to say Cane, but all the stats given are pretty straight forward and don't lend to that.
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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    oh noes....dem democrats are killin people now.....

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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    I'd say we're a 6 working on a 7 .
    Life is a grindstone . Whether it grinds us down or polishes us up , depends on what we are made of .

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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    How was that relevant to anything?

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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How was that relevant to anything? </div></div>
    Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it's no relevant. It's a scary thing if you think about it. If the U.S is not careful what says we couldn't have another politically charged civil. I don't think it will happen in our life time but the way the country is split now days i could end up being the downfall of the U.S if China doesn't get a hold of us first
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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    I guess its not relevant unless its kissing Obamas ass.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." -Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    The stats about the dem/rep states is about stupid.

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    Re: How Long Do We Have???

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess its not relevant unless its kissing Obamas ass. </div></div>

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